I could care less if they toiled endlessly to make this game balanced again. Even if I they did it, it would make me laugh. That just means they're desperate for people to play their game. Besides, they're nothing without us players.
Why complaining about RAPs makes me upset.
- Thread starter TheRussian
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TheRussian
Pixel Gun Legend REBORN
How on earth does that make any sense? If u had op armor, would u be happy!? U never died super easy anymore! C'mon
Then why are we complaining that ruby armored players kill u guys all the time??? I mean u guys are making this much harder than what it really is.
amen now NO-ONE can possibly complain if we also make all the guns free.
Phobos69
Assassin's padawan
I agree with therussian if you guys have ruby armor what are you complaining to? It is better for you right? I mean if you find a guy with ruby armor then put your ruby armor as well and you will be in equal circumastances, right?. Do you know what makes the difference on the gameplays? Weapons, not armor, WEAPONS are the problem. Why? Cause is not the same killing a tank with brave patriot or even ak48 than using a fully upgrated hellraiser thats obvious. Do you want another reason why armor is not the problem? Because it exist guns as prototype, agb, chain thunderbolt, predator, hellraiser, peacemaker, dual machine guns etc and etc than can kill quite easily a Rap, if you dont have anyone of that wich is more unlikely, then use grenades. Even the up1 versions on that weapons are still powerfull so you dont even need to waste gems to perform well against raps cause lets be honest the 70% of Raps doesnt even have the full upgrade versions on that guns, am i right?
People dont complain on armor, they are not being honest on themselves their real problem is their lack of skill. Cause all of us are in the same circumstances to get a ruby armor right? It doesnt cost gems so i dont see where is the problem.
I think game will be better if they nerf the characteristics on armor as speed or jumping higher but also proportional.
If they do buff the best weapons it will be even more unfair for lower lvl armored palyers.... So it will take only one shoot to kill with a rifle as hellraiser a non armored player if you hit his head? That will be too op and doesnt have any sense at all cause you will spreading around the match very quickly and powerfull shoots it will be very very easy to take down -crystal users. What they should do is buff all the unpowered guns just a little bit and make it the more equal they can compared with guns as DG, laser minigun etc and the problem will be solved. And buff the prices (proportinally) too on that cheaper weapons so it wont be unfair for that people who have spent a lot on a peacemaker for example.
People dont complain on armor, they are not being honest on themselves their real problem is their lack of skill. Cause all of us are in the same circumstances to get a ruby armor right? It doesnt cost gems so i dont see where is the problem.
I think game will be better if they nerf the characteristics on armor as speed or jumping higher but also proportional.
If they do buff the best weapons it will be even more unfair for lower lvl armored palyers.... So it will take only one shoot to kill with a rifle as hellraiser a non armored player if you hit his head? That will be too op and doesnt have any sense at all cause you will spreading around the match very quickly and powerfull shoots it will be very very easy to take down -crystal users. What they should do is buff all the unpowered guns just a little bit and make it the more equal they can compared with guns as DG, laser minigun etc and the problem will be solved. And buff the prices (proportinally) too on that cheaper weapons so it wont be unfair for that people who have spent a lot on a peacemaker for example.
TheRussian
Pixel Gun Legend REBORN
Finally someone that understands
Ruby Rose
The Silver Eyed Warrior
I don't Want armor to protect myself even if it was free. I wish armor never existed in PG3D.
TheRussian
Pixel Gun Legend REBORN
Then dont use the armor
Ruby Rose
The Silver Eyed Warrior
Then everyone else is using armor. If there is other players besides myself that doesn't want to use armor then you still have the problem of unbalanced playing. Because everyone else is using Ruby Armor. It's not the players I'm complaining about with Ruby Armor, it's the armor itself. If armor was never introduced to PG3D we probably wouldn't have the problem that much with OP and unbalanced gaming. Not saying unbalanced gameplay would never be around if armor was never introduced, that's NOT what I'm saying. Because back then there was magic weapons that everyone had a problem with. Even though I would much rather have to deal with magic weapons back then than deal with all the OP things we have now.
TheRussian
Pixel Gun Legend REBORN
I know about hating armor in the first place but the thing is i highly doubt Rillisoft will remove it. It's too late and if u r struggling killing a RAP, i suggest more practice, trigger time, and using better weapons. Most of u hate op weapons and hate op armor. Instead of using weak weapons, use stronger weapons to down these opponents! Get better upgrades!
Gatorrex
Mlg protoraiser
Dude the hellraiser, peacemaker, dragons breath, dual mgs takes way too long to kill a ruby armor player. The only weapon that can kill a rap is prototype. And also, higher level players are not allowed to play with lower levelled players so everyone have the same gear.
That's exactly why i want armor nerfed instead of buffing all weapons. Its much easier for rilisoft to do, and you guys think all the weapons now are op when it does so little damage to kill a rap fast enough.
Let them work like hell. It's their compensation for turning this game to what it is now.
Phobos69
Assassin's padawan
I understand your point. But first of all let me explain me better mine.
Forget about the OP word first if i want to be sincer for me the only op weapons in this game are (solar cannon, agb and laser minigun) Abg and solar cannon are not Op unless and the only condition that both of the players using that guns are Rap, but thats IMO.
Second im a newer player thats why i dont get your total point i started playing in nov 2014.
Third. You guys dont realize than since rilisoft add armor differences between players will exist ALWAYS ( thats why exist guns as agb, laser cannon etc) and to be honest is unlikely rilisoft would nerf enough to make a very balanced game UNLESS difference on each lvl armor is about 5 shields on each one, something like that.Since rilisoft introduce armor you cant also buff the best weapons cause it will be unfair for lower armor players right?
The only solution i see is nerfing ONLY RA and CA reducing shield points or adding some cons i dont really mind so the game will be more equal or buffing the usless weapons against high lvl armors.
Im the first one that i want armor should be removed but, thats for now unlikely and is too late, some people have spent money on it, therefore there will be some part of the community complaining about that or even people wasting hours grinding for a ruby armor and doesnt think as you or me.
Gatorrex
Mlg protoraiser
Quick solution: remove the helmet. Give people who bought them 100% refund.
Phobos69
Assassin's padawan
Thats could be a very good solution. But you thing rilisoft will refund you like 800 coins or somthing like that? I dont know.
Gatorrex
Mlg protoraiser
Well, they did that before for the wands and stuff, i got 1000+ coins for a refund of weapons before. And other hats like the crown wont be useless. Plus its much less work than nerfing the armor or adding some negative effects.
Dban1
Member
Old is gold. Sometimes.
B@tMan
Go off on them
As a RAP myself. It's NOT hard to kill us. People dont understand that it's not hard to kill us,they just dont want to try,or not try hard enough. In order to be the best you have to play the best and play the hardest. Why? Cause if you play with the hardest you'll eventually get better and use to the gameplay.
And most of the people who are complaining are the ones who just make it harder on themselves. Like this,
You dont move.
You're predictable.
You're SO SLOW to shoot.
You cant aim.
Again,you dont move or you stand out in the open.
You put yourself in a corner and trap yourself.
You kill yourself
You blow yourself up
I think you get it. The point of armor is to PROTECT YOU! People on the army rely on the BEST protection so they wont die! They're not like,"You know what! The enemy has a bozooka and will kill me instantly,but i rather not wear any protective gear because it may be unfair for him to kill me and will make me too op."
. So armor is doing it's purpose of protecting.
And most of the people who are complaining are the ones who just make it harder on themselves. Like this,
You dont move.
You're predictable.
You're SO SLOW to shoot.
You cant aim.
Again,you dont move or you stand out in the open.
You put yourself in a corner and trap yourself.
You kill yourself
You blow yourself up
I think you get it. The point of armor is to PROTECT YOU! People on the army rely on the BEST protection so they wont die! They're not like,"You know what! The enemy has a bozooka and will kill me instantly,but i rather not wear any protective gear because it may be unfair for him to kill me and will make me too op."
. So armor is doing it's purpose of protecting.
KingOfKings
New Member
I totally agree with you.As a RAP myself. It's NOT hard to kill us. People dont understand that it's not hard to kill us,they just dont want to try,or not try hard enough. In order to be the best you have to play the best and play the hardest. Why? Cause if you play with the hardest you'll eventually get better and use to the gameplay.
And most of the people who are complaining are the ones who just make it harder on themselves. Like this,
You dont move.
You're predictable.
You're SO SLOW to shoot.
You cant aim.
Again,you dont move or you stand out in the open.
You put yourself in a corner and trap yourself.
You kill yourself
You blow yourself up
I think you get it. The point of armor is to PROTECT YOU! People on the army rely on the BEST protection so they wont die! They're not like,"You know what! The enemy has a bozooka and will kill me instantly,but i rather not wear any protective gear because it may be unfair for him to kill me and will make me too op."
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I would HATE if they added magic again...But I agree with the gems, only way to get them is to buy them or level up.
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oniisaki
Member
It's easy, but you mostly need gem weapons and AT LEAST some decent armor yourself with certain gem weapons. Exception includes the prototype. Primary weapons like hellraisor, peacemaker and high voltage simply doesn't make the cut. AGB at UP1 is pretty much useless on RAPs...so you need the gem upgrade UP2 of AGB.
Playing hard = Losing to RAPs completely, unable to kill them at all for awhile despite your best efforts?
Also, your argument can be said to Mech/Torrent/Invis spammers, and does RAPs love Mech/Torrent/Invis? Probably not.
Reasons?
Is it because they're wasting money? Maybe...
Is it because they're literally unfair & unkillable? YES!
They hate it, because for most players, no matter what they do, if the Mech/Torrent/Invis user even have half the skills they have to spam the gem item buttons, they can't win, or at least, they can't do a thing against that player. But do you think they look back fondly at the event, since they tried and played their "hardest"? No, of course not. It seems that "playing their hardest" is different from playing and enjoying a game which is supposed to happen.
Best way to improve skills = Overcoming/battling with other skilled players
Worst way to improve skills = Getting one-sidedly slaughtered with super end-game equipped players or item spammers with less skills (Learned from my experience, and despised it)
If your suggesting the ones complaining are all "noobs" that got no aim or brains, that's a wrong accusation.
General Trend:
Forum Users = Bothered with the Game to Read Strategies/Guides and Posts = Much Better Average Skill Level vs Non-Forum Users
So i can safely say most of them don't do the things you listed.
Since I already have played quite a few MMO shooting games, I don't do any of those things you listed when I just hit level 26 in this game, but I still pretty much get owned by RAPs, especially ones spamming AGBs. My only option was killing them from behind before they know whats going on, but even that, wasn't a perfect strategy due to their heavy armor and my measly hellraisor.
I hate this illogical reasoning. Comparing extremities and don't consider the term "balance".I think you get it. The point of armor is to PROTECT YOU! People on the army rely on the BEST protection so they wont die! They're not like,"You know what! The enemy has a bozooka and will kill me instantly,but i rather not wear any protective gear because it may be unfair for him to kill me and will make me too op."
Yes, armor is to protect you, but there's moderation in everything, and I don't believe there's much moderation in 44 points of armor. But at the same time, I don't think just getting rid of armor from this game is the complete solution, since there's weapons like AGB that makes it impossible.
There's a lot of ways to go about it, as described by other threads.
The Snipah
Fallen Sniper
I don't buy armor. But what gets me mad is the OP gem weapons.
Aʟᴇx
Pretty Nocturnal
I don't care RAP's. However, I am truly annoyed with the ones that are accompanied with overly powered weapons, and calls everyone a noob, yet still getting killed. And in the end, they'll be like OMG HACKER I REPORT U!!!
Good thing Rilisoft removed Adamant Armor.
Good thing Rilisoft removed Adamant Armor.
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