People carelessly putting turrets everywhere

GlitterKit said:
Maybe they shouldn't remove armor, but add some disadvantages like reduced speed, jump, agility, etc.
The next armor level will have more disadvantages then the last.
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Nope, reduce armor points. Or maybe add different types of armor (and also reduce armor points).
Light armor: 20 armor points and increase mobility
Normal armor (armor now but nerfed): 30 armor points
Heavy armor: 40 armor points but less mobility
 
GlitterKit said:
Maybe they shouldn't remove armor, but add some disadvantages like reduced speed, jump, agility, etc.
The next armor level will have more disadvantages then the last.
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Im with you man. Totally right. Armor poitns are absolutelly usefull againsts snipers, against minigun laser, agb, solar cannon, high voltage, dragon breath, freeze ray etc. If you reduce shield points you will be killed too fast against that. I think armor points arent the problem. Weapons balance is the prblems and also some effect shoes for RAP. Armor should be nerfed in this aspects as glitterkit says and somethin proportional.
 
Phobos69 said:
Im with you man. Totally right. Armor poitns are absolutelly usefull againsts snipers, against minigun laser, agb, solar cannon, high voltage, dragon breath, freeze ray etc. If you reduce shield points you will be killed too fast against that. I think armor points arent the problem. Weapons balance is the prblems and also some effect shoes for RAP. Armor should be nerfed in this aspects as glitterkit says and somethin proportional.
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Nooooo snipers like the prototype and elephant rifle are SUPPOSED to kill in 1 body shot, not freakin 2 shots! AGB kills in 2 shots last time. Now it kills in 3. You ARE supposed to be killed fast instead of like 10 seconds. Before the armor update, you can kill with a rambos rifle with 3 headshots. And just because theres the op laser minigun and dater hater, that dosent mean that all the other weapons are as strong as those! The laser minigun and dater hater just needs to be nerfed (and also players who bought them gets refunded ).
We are all too used to tank everything because of ruby armor. Have you tried killing 5 RAPs without dying with just a primary weapon? Thats almost impossible and you will just run out of ammo before getting the 3rd kill. Players are WAY too tanky with 60 health and i think the problem with armor is the armor points. So i would say nerf to 40 health max.
 
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Gatorrex said:
Nooooo snipers like the prototype and elephant rifle are SUPPOSED to kill in 1 body shot, not freakin 2 shots! AGB kills in 2 shots last time. Now it kills in 3. You ARE supposed to be killed fast instead of like 10 seconds. Before the armor update, you can kill with a rambos rifle with 3 headshots. And just because theres the op laser minigun and dater hater, that dosent mean that all the other weapons are as strong as those! The laser minigun and dater hater just needs to be nerfed (and also players who bought them gets refunded ).
We are all too used to tank everything because of ruby armor. Have you tried killing 5 RAPs without dying with just a primary weapon? Thats almost impossible and you will just run out of ammo before getting the 3rd kill. Players are WAY too tanky with 60 health and i think the problem with armor is the armor points. So i would say nerf to 40 health max.
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Now you still can kill with elephant hunter 2 or 1 shoots(depend on armor lvl player) and prototoye 1 shoot any player, dater hater (2 or 1 with a high fire rate) Why you want to decrease armor points? It would be too easy to kill with snipers and everybody will use snipers. Is not that difficult to hit on someones head on this game since in this game the head is that big.
The only thing you gain with that is being killed more quickly but it doesnt change anything at all. If you nerf some characteristics on armors proprtionally and conscioustly instead what of you are saying, what youre achieving is a more balanced game but with same health points. It would be funny being killed with agb with only 1 or 2 shooots? :s. Or minigun laser in less than 0.5 sec?

I have killed three rap player with primary gun without diing but thats ok. Is a primary weapon after all.....
 
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Aye, I never knew the Dater Hater was OP... it is strong, yes, but just as strong as the Crystal Laser Cannon.
Unless, they don't nerf the armor... they boost up the health!
The point of the armor is to protect you, but in PG3D, they also double as extra "health" points.
Therefore, by boosting up the health, the need for exceeded armor points (also known as OP), will be decreased!
 
Dater hater is like guerilla rifle but much more powerfull or as strong as elephant hunter but with higher fire rate, i think is as good as prototype or pretty near.
 
Phobos69 said:
Dater hater is like guerilla rifle but much more powerfull or as strong as elephant hunter but with higher fire rate, i think is as good as prototype or pretty near.
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Hehe I like the weapons of name that Rilisoft added for Valentine's day weapons... Might be handy to kill daters :3
 
If they want armor removed,they should first start out with balancing the guns and getting rid of turrets and mechs. With all these 17+ lethality guns,killing people is super easy if they dont have any armor. Armor is made to protect from guns like the laser mini gun and many others. When they keep adding more op guns,they add higher armor. One of the main issues is the unbalanced guns. And if its bad,then just save up for armor in online survival or offline survival. It's not THAT hard.
 
Legendary Pro Heavy said:
Hehe I like the weapons of name that Rilisoft added for Valentine's day weapons... Might be handy to kill daters :3
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The dater hater will probably be nerfed like the hellraiser. The hellraiser was able to do 9 damage PER SHOT and now only 3. If the dater hater dosent get nerfed, the hellraiser should be rebuffed because i spent like 1000 coins buying that thing.
 
Phobos69 said:
Now you still can kill with elephant hunter 2 or 1 shoots(depend on armor lvl player) and prototoye 1 shoot any player, dater hater (2 or 1 with a high fire rate) Why you want to decrease armor points? It would be too easy to kill with snipers and everybody will use snipers. Is not that difficult to hit on someones head on this game since in this game the head is that big.
The only thing you gain with that is being killed more quickly but it doesnt change anything at all. If you nerf some characteristics on armors proprtionally and conscioustly instead what of you are saying, what youre achieving is a more balanced game but with same health points. It would be funny being killed with agb with only 1 or 2 shooots? :s. Or minigun laser in less than 0.5 sec?

I have killed three rap player with primary gun without diing but thats ok. Is a primary weapon after all.....
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You probably havent played pixel gun before 7.3.0. The prototype and elephant rifle can kill with 1 body shot ad the guriella rifle kills in 1 headshot. And you WERE supposed to be killed in 0.5 sec if all your shots hit headshot. All explosives except the agb could kill in 1 shot.
Many people wants 7.3.0 back. Why? Because theres no armor and you can kill or get killed in less than a second.
 
Gatorrex said:
You probably havent played pixel gun before 7.3.0. The prototype and elephant rifle can kill with 1 body shot ad the guriella rifle kills in 1 headshot. And you WERE supposed to be killed in 0.5 sec if all your shots hit headshot. All explosives except the agb could kill in 1 shot.
Many people wants 7.3.0 back. Why? Because theres no armor and you can kill or get killed in less than a second.
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So then if you want that what rilisoft should do is removing armor and nerf some weapons. Decreasimg armor points youre not changing anything at all because people having no armor or wooden armor will be killed in 0.5 sec and ruby armor 1.5 sec instead of 1 sec and 3sec as it is right now. I dont know if you get my point..... Younce said the key of the thing.
 
Phobos69 said:
So then if you want that what rilisoft should do is removing armor and nerf some weapons. Decreasimg armor points youre not changing anything at all because people having no armor or wooden armor will be killed in 0.5 sec and ruby armor 1.5 sec instead of 1 sec and 3sec as it is right now. I dont know if you get my point..... Younce said the key of the thing.
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I said decrease the max armor from 50 to 30, thats not so serious that you will be 1 shot by every weapon. I didnt say remove them or decrease them to 5. If you still want to be tanky, maybe rilisoft could add different types of armor like heavy armor and light armor. Heavy armor will have 40 armor points but reduced 15 mobility and light armor will have 20 armor points only but increase 15 mobility. Does that seem fair enough?
And not ALL of your shots are going to be headshots, you will probably miss 30% of the time, 50% if your opponent knows how to dodge with double jump. I just want the armor points to be lowered enough so that snipers can 1 shot someone (prototype kill in 1 body shot) and a rifle can kill before running out of ammo. And not EVERYONE has a laser minigun, only hackers and gem buyers have them.
 
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