Spambot Discussion

Discussion in 'Site Feedback and Suggestions' started by GoldMan27, Nov 18, 2014.

  1. GoldMan27

    GoldMan27 Retired Moderator/Lazy Drivers Crew Chief Staff Member

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    Thread has been renamed to discuss Spambots. Talk away.
     
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  2. Sagitarius

    Sagitarius The Stargazing Horokew Kamuy

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    Since my time of activity corresponds with the emergence of the spam-bots, I have been reporting these spam-bots as soon as I spot them and I admit it, their number has been increasing for the past week or so. Their spam-threads/posts as well as their homepages tend to contain mature contents and I find it very necessary to delete them on the spot. With all due respect however, the establishment of a "watch-team" may not be of the best idea.

    As the leader of the Neighbourhood Watch, I have seen the group fall apart from within and truth be told I am skeptical of whether or not the system would work out as planned. There are always the X-factors that we must consider, including some members who enforce their own jurisdiction and thereby act out the "Junior Moderators". The reason to why the NHW fell in the first place was due to the inactivity of the members and the acting-without-accordance, which did in fact lead to flamewars and many users being awarded with warnings.

    Timing-wise, I have done some investigations and found out that these accounts are usually created around 7:00 - 9:00 PM HST during the weekdays, meaning that they strike exactly when most of the forumers (moderators included) are dormant or preparing for school. In other words, the number of people that can offer their own time to be on a lookout is very limited, especially if there is that necessity to act with alacrity.

    As for the new anti-spam systems implemented, they have worked to some extent initially. The Spammer however, is not an idiot and has learned to avoid the detection by substituting certain keywords and all. This has also lead to the said culprit creating even more spam-accounts just so that they can set a certain webpage as the homepage per account.

    Take this as an opinion of mine, but my instinct tells me that there are better alternatives to solving this problem.


    EDIT: I have counted 17 of them in the past week. The frequency of these accounts being created is rising and it has become a battle of attrition. Either we act right now, or have them overwhelm us.

    EDIT: I have counted 27 or 28 within the past three weeks. The rate at which these accounts are made is increasing, and there are usually at least one or two of them reported each day.

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    More than half the new members we get are actually spam-bots, just so that you are aware.

    EDIT: The frequency has increased. If this is not enough to convince you, I do not know what will.
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  3. GoldMan27

    GoldMan27 Retired Moderator/Lazy Drivers Crew Chief Staff Member

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    Very well, I've renamed the thread to "Spambot Discussion".

    So, we know they arrive during peak hours when the bulk of activity is minimal. We also have the option of making a bot ourselves to hunt down these accounts (however the coding could take a while, and even then it could have tendency to follow its protocol too well, meaning we'd end up banning accounts made by real people alongside spam accounts).

    Any other ideas then?
     
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  4. Sagitarius

    Sagitarius The Stargazing Horokew Kamuy

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    As we have discussed beforehand, there is an option of having a new "active" moderator to work out the system. I am probably the one who frequents the forums the most, and I am willing to step up to the position if I receive full approval from the other moderators along with VashX.

    I would be able to tend to these bots in a matter of minutes and instead of reporting, I can deal with them the same way as moderators. But then again, it is a just a suggestion.
     
  5. GoldMan27

    GoldMan27 Retired Moderator/Lazy Drivers Crew Chief Staff Member

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    Hmm, so it all comes back to a 5th/replacement 4th Mod. Well, if anyone has further opinion on the matter, feel free to say your opinion on this.
     
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    Well, considering the potential for banning non-spamming users if a bot is used to cut down on spam threads, I believe a new moderator would work much better when it comes to decreasing the frequent spam accounts. However, whether these are appropriate decisions or not is up to VashX. Perhaps he should have an idea or two about the situation.
     
  7. Mint

    Mint YOU KNOW THA $KOUTS Staff Member Moderator

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    This idea is quite basic, but I guess reCAPTCHA is always worth a try, and if that doesn't work, I would agree that a 5th moderator would be a good idea, TheRudeWolf is most likely the most suitable for the job, being probably the most active member on the forums.
     
  8. Oddy

    Oddy NEWS JUST IN! KIDS ARE REALLY EDGY IN 2K16!

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    A captcha would be annoying. Unless, only new members can get it untill said amonut of post's.
     
  9. Mint

    Mint YOU KNOW THA $KOUTS Staff Member Moderator

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    Woops, I mean't a captcha when joining, unless we already have that. But your idea seems smarter than mine :3.
     
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    The idea of spam bots seem pretty decent. Although the idea may be useless and basic it would be helpful. All of the moderators do have their own lives to take care of and rarely have time to ban multiple spam bots. Plus it would have at least a flaw or two but the idea could be added to the forums.
     
  11. Ruby Rose

    Ruby Rose The Silver Eyed Warrior Staff Member Moderator

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    Question!
    What exactly is a spambot?
     
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  12. U.N. Owen

    U.N. Owen Need more speed

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    Someone who makes a account with a name like "Tod Bed" names like that and have links in there profile
     
  13. GoldMan27

    GoldMan27 Retired Moderator/Lazy Drivers Crew Chief Staff Member

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    Not quite.

    Spambots are usually actual "bots" (as in programmed bots, not physical bots) controlled by a user that make accounts on forums in hopes that some fateful user will click their link. Often times if left unattended, these spambots can overwhelm a forum and will usually boost the forum's pagerank in Google searches by posting numerous threads, further advertising their link.

    RudeWolf and I tend to spot them quite quickly on the Members section. If they have a full name in all lowercase, and they have a spam link attached to their profile, they are a spambot. Simply give RudeWolf or I a holler, and one of the Mods will hop right over and ban their butts back to the computer they came from! :tongueout:
     
  14. Knight_Prism05

    Knight_Prism05 PG3D Sniping Lord.

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    so TRW will Be a Moderator?
     
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  15. GoldMan27

    GoldMan27 Retired Moderator/Lazy Drivers Crew Chief Staff Member

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    Actually, I only threw him in there because he seems to be the main person to report these spambots for me when I am unable to. In a sense, he's moreso a secretary in these matters for me, though if he will become a Moderator, that remains to be seen.
     
  16. Ruby Rose

    Ruby Rose The Silver Eyed Warrior Staff Member Moderator

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    Ok!:smile:
     
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  17. Hayabusa

    Hayabusa Well-Known Member

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    I have noticed that these Spam Bots may hove only come from one source. Seeing as they have the same webpage that they're advertising.
     
  18. U.N. Owen

    U.N. Owen Need more speed

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    I seen them come from mostly 4 or 5 sources
    Which one is Maxxnofacts or what ever its called
     
  19. GoldMan27

    GoldMan27 Retired Moderator/Lazy Drivers Crew Chief Staff Member

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    Truth be told, there are programs out there that allow users to setup loads of spambots, linking bogus websites, with bogus IPs, and bogus email addresses.

    How do I know this? I had a user on this forum ask twice for some software that could create spambots and send them to a specific domain. After that, I did some more background research on spambots. In short, if you know what to look for, you can find software to create dozens of spambots, and file them out to a specific site. In any case, These spambots are most likely coming from the same user, who just at random happens to put different sites on them.
     
  20. Ruby Rose

    Ruby Rose The Silver Eyed Warrior Staff Member Moderator

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    That's kinda creepy.....
     
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  21. mrawesome9002

    mrawesome9002 The depressed fat Freddy Fazbear

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    Spambots are freaking annoying, I think maybe having to do a simple and quick CAPTCHA (or however you spell it) every time somebody registers/logs in that is hard enough so bots can't pass it, yet easy enough so that it doesn't become annoying/tedious for real people.
     


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