Are you really sure you want no armor!?

TheRussian

TheRussian

Pixel Gun Legend REBORN
If so then yay! Why? Will i have the ability to never get killed XD
Heck committing suicide because I'm about to die will be so much faster. In fact almost too easy. This game will always now be as easy as fighting level oners. I will be truly unbeatable due to the over powered weapons. So yeah plz take the armor away, then take away all the weapons too because i will make it unfair for those who don't have that particular weapon. After all. It's so unfair, unbalanced, unreasonable, and uncivilized when one player has better stuff than a different player. In fact why not take away everything that is op. everything has to be the exact same dam thing. Everyone has the exact same knife, pistol and shotgun so no one has a higher advantage over each other. Heh, armor, thats bad because its unfair to people that don't have armor. So is that skin that person made. It's unfair that person has it and not me.....

So yeah tell me your thoughts about armor now and if all you are going to do is yell at me and not get the message i am trying to tell you then don't even bother message at all.
Thank you and happy new year :grin:
 
I did not say remove armor,just add cons to it.Like for example:
Wooden armor: 3 protection,mobility 10
That is just an example,I'm not saying that armor should be removed,just nerf it a bit and should have some cons as well as pros.And also may I remind u some guns are nerfed to put balance back into the game.
 
Ruby Rose said:
I did not say remove armor,just add cons to it.Like for example:
Wooden armor: 3 protection,mobility 10
That is just an example,I'm not saying that armor should be removed,just nerf it a bit and should have some cons as well as pros.And also may I remind u some guns are nerfed to put balance back into the game.
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I don't recall you saying anything about this...
And yes...only Some are Nerfed bring you this so called,"balance" :smile:
Hahahahahahahahahahahahaha
 
It Should get Hugr nerf,
Old version of PG3D don't have armor, it can only be purchase like potions.
My suggestions, wooden armor +1.5% damage resistance and 1 armor point, wooden helmet +1% damage resistance.
So it give you 2.5%, with wooden upgrade it's 5% with 2 armor point.
Every armor you upgrade increase +1.5% damage resistance and +1 armor point.
Every helmet you upgrade increase +1% damage resistance.
Everygun should get recoil, I've make thread about it though.
With Armor and Helmet wear together you get accuracy buff, +5% accuracy.

Armor should get nerf, rurusoft pls.
 
Hatsumi said:
It Should get Hugr nerf,
Old version of PG3D don't have armor, it can only be purchase like potions.
My suggestions, wooden armor +1.5% damage resistance and 1 armor point, wooden helmet +1% damage resistance.
So it give you 2.5%, with wooden upgrade it's 5% with 2 armor point.
Every armor you upgrade increase +1.5% damage resistance and +1 armor point.
Every helmet you upgrade increase +1% damage resistance.
Everygun should get recoil, I've make thread about it though.
With Armor and Helmet wear together you get accuracy buff, +5% accuracy.

Armor should get nerf, rurusoft pls.
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That would make armor literally useless compared to what I'm put up against. Maybe its players hate Arno because really, they can't get enough wins, they can't fight through the Armored players. They aren't aware that other game modes give a much higher payout than team deathmatch or deathmatch. People need more coins. Make the payouts bigger and no longer will time limits win the game. It should be whoever gets 15 kills first wins. That way people can get armor.
 
TheRussian said:
If so then yay! Why? Will i have the ability to never get killed XD
Heck committing suicide because I'm about to die will be so much faster. In fact almost too easy. This game will always now be as easy as fighting level oners. I will be truly unbeatable due to the over powered weapons. So yeah plz take the armor away, then take away all the weapons too because i will make it unfair for those who don't have that particular weapon. After all. It's so unfair, unbalanced, unreasonable, and uncivilized when one player has better stuff than a different player. In fact why not take away everything that is op. everything has to be the exact same dam thing. Everyone has the exact same knife, pistol and shotgun so no one has a higher advantage over each other. Heh, armor, thats bad because its unfair to people that don't have armor. So is that skin that person made. It's unfair that person has it and not me.....

So yeah tell me your thoughts about armor now and if all you are going to do is yell at me and not get the message i am trying to tell you then don't even bother message at all.
Thank you and happy new year :grin:
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TheRussian, you must understand where a lot of the hate for armor stems from. It is not because players cannot afford to buy armor to survive, but because Pixel Gun 3D has evolved to a point where armor is a necessity and not having it restricts a player from having a fair advantage in-game.
An example of such an occurrance happening would be long ago when players were worried about The Wand more than anything. When it first came out, there were no ways to counter the weapon and it trumped most weaponry back then by a huge margin due to it's high power (being able to kill players in 3 hits) , unlimited ammo, and ability to spot players behind walls (this is partly why players now are not able to see each other's in-game name behind walls anymore). The Wand's attributes were just more advanced than other weaponry to a point where players no longer could properly defend themselves beside getting The Wand themselves. Now, at that point, Pixel Gun had become "unbalanced". Why? Because The Wand had become a necessary piece of weaponry and many matches could not be won without it.
Now, of course, The Wand and many other Wall-Breakers, for the time being, have been greatly nerfed, decreasing their usability by not including unlimited ammo or by removing the Wall-Breaker ability altogether. However, it was a long time before anything was done to fix the problem and during that time, much of the community had been sick of it. This type of sickness that now divides players into Pro-Armor and Anti-Armor is, unfortunately, the same that divided players into Wall-Bangers and Non-Wall-Bangers long ago. Yet, there is a difference between the two problems. That is whether one was essential to gameplay or not.
Wands were never essential to gameplay and many players could live without it. If Wands were removed, the gameplay would stay the same. However, the same doesn't hold true for armor. Armor has become necessary due to the growing number of weaponry that can kill those without it. Removing armor now would be catastrophic due to most weaponry being modeled to combat those with it, which would cause new and old players to constantly die from merely a few shots from weapons such as the Crystal Laser Cannon or PSR. This was caused, in part, due to Rilisoft merely considering the gameplay short-term and not long into the future. It is due to Rilisoft not obtaining any feedback for the idea of armor that caused this mess and, unfortunately, there isn't much of a way out of it.
So, in short, @TheRussian and @RiliSoft , armor has caused a great deal of hate to occurr within the Pixel Gun 3D community due to it's necessity to gameplay and that feedback for the game was never considered. Perhaps now you understand a little more why some members of the forum opposed the change so much.
 
Armour is unfair because it's so expensive and no new players are able to actually counter it. They're interested in getting new weapons, which means they don't have spares for good armour.

Pretty much what Chaotix said, it gives a huge advantage to whoever wears either of the two top tiers of it, and generally can make them unstoppable against a team of weak-armoured players, let alone those with no armour. I feel ashamed for having to use it, but in the game we play nowadays, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
 
FeeshBBU said:
Armour is unfair because it's so expensive and no new players are able to actually counter it.--- I feel ashamed for having to use it, but in the game we play nowadays, if you can't beat 'em, join 'em.
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That's sort of the point I'm trying to get across. Many players must now adapt to using armor if they want to survive, which can't be done due to many things such as lack of coins, inefficient weaponry, and other problems. However, those who do happen to have the armor have an clear all-around advantage.
My idea (or at least a starting concept) of countering armor is simple. Instead of removing armor completely, create a weapon or a class of weapons with a new ability: Anti-Armor. It allows for armor users to now be held to the same limitations that all players have, and that is 9 points of basic health.
 
If level oners have ruby armor then I'm done. Why did i have to wait to level 22 to get ruby armor yet some kid with a little cash bought it at level 1. I couldn't purchase ruby and you guys can't either unit u hit level 22.
 
DeCaintain said:
I actually agree... Luckily I have no use for any armor...I've already adapted against Mechs and armored players and I can annihilate them with ease...
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Imagine if they were taken away. It's gonna be even easier for us. And I have a very laggy device. So its near impossible for me to dodge every shot when there are more then 4 people in a server. Armor helps but if i had a better device i wouldn't use armor
 
Armour doesn't matter anymore. Its the mechs and the laser miniguns that are in every server above level 6. That's how bad it is. The game was doing pretty well before the OP weapons came out.
 
Plazma said:
Armour doesn't matter anymore. Its the mechs and the laser miniguns that are in every server above level 6. That's how bad it is. The game was doing pretty well before the OP weapons came out.
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That why we wear armor! To attack the mechs and turrets. And when you are facing the damn armor people, use mechs
 
TheRussian said:
If so why not have armor? All is fair in love and war. XD (Just saying, Russian, all actually isn't fair in love and war. I just like to pretend to be philosophical and wise)
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Never said I don't use armour. I use what I can get. But my armour is wooden. I focus on weaponry more.
 
Wearing armor doesn't make you a coward. A coward runs away and hides... Kinda like a camper. Armor is for those on the front lines consuming the incoming fire as a human shield so that the less armored players can advance forward. Armor limits your teams death count. If you play team battles
 
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