Vote: What would we like to see removed from PG3D?
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TheRussian
Pixel Gun Legend REBORN
We've been following this thread from the beginning, you did a great job planning these things out.
We'll be honest with you: all these things mentioned above won't go. But they will be modified, if you guide us through all the pros and cons (e.g. which you did in this thread)
We'll be honest with you: all these things mentioned above won't go. But they will be modified, if you guide us through all the pros and cons (e.g. which you did in this thread)
TheRussian
Pixel Gun Legend REBORN
gems=cons=extremely hard to get for the higher ranking players the just got the update. Pro=...
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Former Ignorant Critic
I appreciate your interest in this thread and as a result I have returned to address my concerns. Firstly, I have absolutely no issue with you stating that these features will not go, I understand that you are a business and are seeking as much return for your efforts as possible, which you are entitled to do and I'm sure the majority of supporters here feel that you deserve. However, I have an issue with individuals or groups that are hypocritical in their statements and actiions. When I provide my suggestions I am doing so under the impression that the better the gameplay is, the more revenue Rilisoft can generate as well, however, this may not be the case. Whatever the case may be, I have tried to form suggestions which I believe will assist both the players and the developers further the game, however this has become increasingly difficult as there appears to be an ever decreasing number of passionate supporters active on these forums and wiling to discuss viable ideas. I believe that a large reason for this is the lack of input which you provide back to the community, we have no idea whether our ideas are realistic or profitable. Let me make it clear, I understand that there must be a large amount of useless 'feedback' that you would receive which would take up time, such as people asking for free weapons and gems etc. We understand that these things are both unrealistic and undesirable as it would take away part of the challenge of the game. Without your input though, the community is playing a guessing game with no one to validate how close each persons guess is, this makes it incredibly frustrating and hardly rewarding. I am running out of time right now so I'll finish by saying that I can offer many suggestions, which I believe are viable however you need to be more active in offering input on how likely those ideas are to be implemented or whether we are on the right track. As far as the next update goes, while I have many suggestions, this is the least I would be happy with and that is not making the game any worse but slowly adding in fixes to the current game such as the friends list, map bugs etc. as far as your need to add in new content to keep people happy, slow down on adding new maps and just add new guns and skins and other minor additions that won't take up as many resources and will allow you to fix the current issues in the game before moving forward, provided you let the community know first. I believe that this game should become like minecraft in terms of popularity, however you must make a greater effort to keep people informed and provide your own feedback to our ideas. I'll be awaiting your response.
You made a very good point. We try to track down every idea that community creates, we do see how many efforts were made to improve the game. Every suggested idea deserves a proper feedback, although it's not that easy to provide. Perhaps, we should start little weekly sessions on this forum to give you required answers, or create another option.
Thank you for bringing this up
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Former Ignorant Critic
I would be satisfied if this were to happen as I think it would be the best use of everyone's time and effort. I don't agree that every idea deserves proper feedback, as many ideas are unrealistic or repetitive, in which case you should make one big post in your own thread detailing why certain ideas can not happen or if an idea has already been suggested. In that way you could just tell people to refer to the the thread rather then respond to each individual query. If we can get this done we will be moving in the right direction.
Gatorrex
Mlg protoraiser
Increasing the prices for mech/turret/jetpack/invis wont change anything. Nobody would buy them and only hackers use them.
I would say for a 2 min match, you get:
3 coins, 20xp and 1 gem per win (rewards will be higher in a longer match)
For team dm, extra 1 gem if you get the most kills in your team, another 1 gem if you get the most kills in the server
For dm, 3 gems for 1st place, 2 gems for 2nd place and 1 gem for 3rd place
For deadly games, 3 gems per win
Ñįgævç Łegend Guy
New Member
Hackers can use unlimited turrets, mechs, and premium Jetpax@. You should get 0-5 gems and 2-15 coins in an 8 min game, plus 10-50 xp depending on your gameplay. I am a level 26 w/ all guns except for a few melee weapons, Solar Ray Rifle, and Last Kiss. I played when it came out back in mid-2013, the only weapons being the pistol, the sawed off shotgun, the knife, and the mp5. Only 3 maps and no multiplayer. It costed $0.99. a year later it was 3.99, and a few months later it was free. Pixel gun was owned by Alex Krasnov. I am fine with the gems/coins system now, even though I like the old coin system better. However I would be happier if it was improved. Btw Gattorex, your system sounds kind of op.
Ñįgævç Łegend Guy
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I'm pretty sure someone could buy 1200 gems.
Gatorrex
Mlg protoraiser
Lol i dont think you can even buy half the guns in the shop with 1200 gems. Each gun costs like 150 gems to get the 3rd upgrade. In 7.1.0, i could buy all the weapons in the shop without purchasing iaps because the guns only cost coins and every time you level up, you get like 300 coins.
Well, the guns now costs so much and the prices are rising. And dont you think the mvps should be getting better rewards? Someone could just join the winning team near the end of the match and get the same rewards as a player who got over 150 kills.
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Former Ignorant Critic
This is part of the problem for Rilisoft, having a game in which everything can be unlocked fairly easily without the need to purchase any IAPs is obviously problematic from the business side of things. I think we need to be prepared to make some concessions when we suggest our ideas, perhaps we shouldn't expect to unlock all the weapons but at least be able to acquire some weapons that are as equally competitive as those that are gained through IAPs. What we want to see is a competitive game, not one which is heavily balanced in favour of those who simply purchase the entire shop. Either some minor benefits must be given to those players, or else the benefits should be purely cosmetic (e.g unique gun skins). If we are too unreasonable with our suggestions, the developers may feel that it is in their best interests to adopt a freemium model similar to that which is used in real racing 3, this would have a devastating impact on the whole gaming community. I think the best way to achieve a good result for both sides is to add in additional features or game modes to the game and also allow users to personalise or customise their profile more, especially since this game is as much a social game as it is an action/shooting game. This process will obviously take time but we must try and work together with the developers towards moving in the desired direction together. A big part of the responsibility in this lies with Rilisoft to communicate with us and provide feedback on our ideas. I think it is important that we wait and see whether they will follow through and begin having weekly sessions where they will do such things, in the meantime I'm happy for anyone to discuss their ideas here.
DirectorScorm
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In other words, @RiliSoft is trying to give a reasonable explaination why IAPs are enabled. Think of it this way... if you'd played Call of Duty or any other games, DLC and IAPs are a must-have thing for businesses. Many people will purchase DLC, many people will not.
Why do we need IAPs?
Most of the money will be used to expand projects. Without the money, the servers won't become fresh nor will the contents.
Why do we need IAPs?
Most of the money will be used to expand projects. Without the money, the servers won't become fresh nor will the contents.
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Former Ignorant Critic
I don't know how to quote your post from my phone @DirectorScorm but yes I agree with you. What I am saying basically is that although we may not like IAPs, they are necessary to the success and development of the game now and in the future, however we need to make sure that these IAPs are reasonable and have a minimal impact on gameplay, therefore we need to think of alternative ways to encourage IAPs without negatively impacting gameplay for the average player. I don't think making currency harder to get is the best way to go about it, but as I said earlier, we must wait and see if Rilisoft are genuinely concerned about our views and are willing to discuss them, otherwise we are merely fantasising.
Gatorrex
Mlg protoraiser
Well, making currency harder to earn is definitely a way to encourage IAPs, but they shoudnt be too hard to earn. The problem with IAPs is that most players are unable to buy IAPs because they dont have a credit card, too expensive (the IAPs are seriously too expensive without the weekly discount) etc. im pretty sure there are many other ways for rilisoft to get their necessary income to further develop the game such as adversisments and maybe a 1 time payment thing to allow a player to gain access to some minor things that wont affect others like extra rewards, custom server with rules, cosmetic things like extra colours and tint to skins, different colours of weapons, and also no advertisements.
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Former Ignorant Critic
I just wanted to inform everyone who has been following this thread that Rilisoft has notified me that they will be beginning their weekly sessions, where they will be listening to suggestions and providing feedback, by the beginning of next week. As a result of this I have decided to close this poll in 7 days time. I would encourage anyone who hasn't yet voted to do so and hope that we can use some of the discussion here to help improve the game. You may still discuss ideas here but after the 7 days have passed this will become a locked thread.
Gatorrex
Mlg protoraiser
Wait you spent $70 to get only crystal armor? I got full ruby armor just by playing the game. If you like the mech, there should be a mech mode, just that items should be removed from normal multiplayer modes so that hackers who spam these items every game wont be so op (hackers are just like any other player without these items).
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I was just rereading some of the comments posted previously and I realised that I had misinterpreted what you were saying here when I first read it. I think that you have made a really important point here that reflects one of the main reasons behind why I started this thread. We must all understand that when we provide suggestions or criticism of a part of the game that we must then accept the repercussions of those ideas. In other words, we must be aware that every update, every new feature, changes the game, often noticeably and in a way that may be difficult to reverse. If we are to improve this game, we must engage in dialogue with the developers to understand the benefits and drawbacks of many of our better ideas. We can not ask the developers to chop and change the game as we please and then hope for the best, this would be a waste of the developers efforts if we can't guarantee that these ideas will be successful and positively received. If we can pull together and understand how our ideas can benefit both the players and the developers, then we can begin to slowly improve this game.
Exactly! Most people tend to forget other people's perspective. Although, I must agree that PG3D has gone down hill lately.
I can also understand why others want to remove all these items, but RiliSoft worked hard to put these items ingame. Simply asking them to remove these items will be in vain.
People only suggest ideas that benefit them. They lack the understanding to see how a company runs. Which is understandable in my terms.
RiliSoft is a business that strives to grow. Without money, they can't hire personnel to work for them.
During 7.0.0 the easiest way to earn coins was already revealed. This caused a major drawback on their budget. So they thought of gems. They made it hard to earn, because they needed the money they lost during 7.0.0.
I'm sure once they earned enough capital, they will surely make gems obtainable.
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